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    The funny thing is my wife goes " What is that car a Morgan ? " and I said "No that's a Caterham but there is a Morgan driving it " -delise

  • #2
    Fun video! That GT2 has some serious acceleration on the straights.

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    • #3
      :D :D :D Great Video! :D :D :D

      The se7en driver had a couple of nice recoveries on that lap!! :eek:
      Tom "ELV15" Jones
      http://PIErats.com

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      • #4
        Thanks for the link MoPho!

        Noticed:

        The Caterham would have done even better w/ out the 3 airbrakes.

        That guy was seriously over-driving the car.

        Slicks are sooo much better than street tires.

        Horsepower matters only on the straights.

        Weight is everything.
        Chris
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        A day you don't go a hundred is a day wasted

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        • #5
          Wow!

          Were you taking notes SD;)

          Call me a wuss, but I think I'd rather ride with the Porsche driver.... that was some borderline insane driving by the guy in the 7. Definately not a 24hr Endurance driver.

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          • #6
            My car is coming with the Avon CR500 tires, I think. I wonder if the driver in this video was using them, and if they squeel as bad as that? I was hoping they were sort of a soft street/track tire. If so, I'll be switching to Kumhos pretty quickly!

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            • #7
              It says he was on CR500s at the start of the video.

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              • #8
                Here is the view from the Porsche





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                www.morgansegal.com

                The funny thing is my wife goes " What is that car a Morgan ? " and I said "No that's a Caterham but there is a Morgan driving it " -delise

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                • #9
                  Ok... probably couldn't handle riding with either one. That track is way too fast for me. Impressive driving/cajonese

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                  • #10
                    Speaking of rides, I had a very crazy ride around the infield at Cal Speedway yesterday in a Lamborghini Murcielago LP-640 with an up and coming Indy Car driver at the helm, 150mph down the straight, up on two wheels over some of the curbing, full opposite lock drifts exiting the corners, it was a lot of fun. Almost as good as the ride in a WRC car I got a few years ago
                    www.morgansegal.com

                    The funny thing is my wife goes " What is that car a Morgan ? " and I said "No that's a Caterham but there is a Morgan driving it " -delise

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mopho View Post
                      Speaking of rides, I had a very crazy ride around the infield at Cal Speedway yesterday in a Lamborghini Murcielago LP-640 with an up and coming Indy Car driver at the helm, 150mph down the straight, up on two wheels over some of the curbing, full opposite lock drifts exiting the corners, it was a lot of fun. Almost as good as the ride in a WRC car I got a few years ago
                      Well, if you liked it so much, you should come out and do it yourself someday. It's waaay more fun than letting someone else do it. We're there twice a year.

                      The trouble w/ the Ring isn't the speed, it's the sheer quantity of corners, particularly unsighted ones. The times I've driven it that was the most daunting part. The locals know them all too well of course and can make seriously fast times around there in mid 80sW Rabbits and such like.
                      Last edited by moosetestbestanden; October 28, 2009, 09:45 PM.
                      Chris
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                      A day you don't go a hundred is a day wasted

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by moosetestbestanden View Post
                        Well, if you liked it so much, you should come out and do it yourself someday. It's waaay more fun than letting someone else do it. We're there twice a year.

                        Actually, I did drive the Lambo around the track (as well as 19 other cars over the past two days) and it was way more fun/exciting having him drive as I could get nowhere near the capabilities of that car.
                        Brought the seven, but I wasn't allowed to drive it on the track.
                        Can't afford track days anymore (this one was on the car manufacturers dime) :(
                        www.morgansegal.com

                        The funny thing is my wife goes " What is that car a Morgan ? " and I said "No that's a Caterham but there is a Morgan driving it " -delise

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                        • #13
                          Can't afford track days anymore
                          Neither can I!:D
                          Chris
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                          A day you don't go a hundred is a day wasted

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                          • #14
                            Chris said:
                            The trouble w/ the Ring isn't the speed, it's the sheer quantity of corners
                            I can second that. Have to add that the changes in surface due to variable weather conditions add a serious degree of difficulty to the drive even if you have enough laps to know where the track is going around that next corner.

                            There are some pretty cool bits in the video.

                            I have 2 favorites:
                            At about 1:50 in the video, getting airborne at Flugplatz is classic. Very nice recovery too.

                            The pass on the downhill and subsequent recovery at Wehrseifen, just before Ex Muhl is way cool. That hairpin can be exciting. You are going downhill and all you can see at the entry is an Armco barrier directly in front of you. Pretty intimidating.

                            Another thing to note: Either that video camera has some good vibration damping or the Caterham has some seriously great suspension. This is particularly evident at Carrocciola. In the flesh, that caroussel is fantastically rough. It just hammers you and puts the car full on the compression stops if you are truly on it.

                            Here is a link to another great 'Ring video. While this one doesn't have any Seven content, it is really impressive. It's Hans Stuck in a BMW M3 GTR. I think that it was practice for the 24 hours or something similar. It starts out on the Sudschleife and then goes onto the Nordschleife.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrufgUDG6cI
                            EscondidoRon

                            '62 Lotus Seven
                            '84 Turbo Esprit (x2)
                            '14 Evora
                            '77 Esprit S1 (RIP) :(

                            "A man must keep a little back shop where he can be himself without reserve. In solitude alone can he know true freedom." -Michel De Montaigne 1588

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                            • #15
                              WOW!

                              Talk about commitment! I like the 4:20 mark at the end of the long straight, a dab on the brakes, down one gear and back on it FLAT!!

                              Stuck is my hero
                              John Norris
                              '91 Caterham 1700 c/f
                              Green/Aluminum W/Clamshells
                              '94 BMW 325I Racecar
                              '94 BMW 325IS Racecar

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