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  • Maybe there's something to this drifting stuff

    Got to do a drifting 101 course this week, the lesson was to drift the car completely around a 20ft circle. took a few tries, but managed to slide the car around two times without spinning it. Harder than it looks, but once you get it figured out and a feel for what the car is doing it's a hoot.
    May need to find a cheap set of wheels and tires for the Cat and a place to play around without getting arrested :D

    Pro drift driver in the passenger seat...
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    www.morgansegal.com

    The funny thing is my wife goes " What is that car a Morgan ? " and I said "No that's a Caterham but there is a Morgan driving it " -delise

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    I tried to do that on the skid pad at the last AROSC driving school. But the way my Birkin is set up (and maybe thanks to the rather grippy ACB10 tires?) if I drive in a constant radius circle faster and faster it will start pushing the front wheels. At the end I managed skidding the circle several times with the front wheels turned in maybe 30-40 degrees more than the actual trace and tires squealing like a pig.

    When on the track in a more dynamic situation the car will typically oversteer slightly. But maybe that is rather due throttle action when accelerating out of the corner. I am not sure if that is a good setup but I got somehow used to it.

    I could imagine there is a way to switch on the skid pad from understeer into the drift in a controlled fashion but I have not figured it out.


    Gert
    Last edited by slomove; March 28, 2009, 12:56 PM.

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    • #3
      It's almost all done with the throttle, you do just a little bit of turn in and then mash the throttle and then blip it to control the balance between the grip and the skid, then as the car comes around you dial in the opposite lock
      www.morgansegal.com

      The funny thing is my wife goes " What is that car a Morgan ? " and I said "No that's a Caterham but there is a Morgan driving it " -delise

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      • #4
        Gert, I suspect the trouble you had was due to the grip of those acb10's. You could add some more HP to compensate or get some harder tires.

        There were a few threads on Blatchat a while back where they were contemplating the amount of fun you can have with sticky tires vs the amount with cheap hard tires.
        Tom "ELV15" Jones
        http://PIErats.com

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        • #5
          If you guys are interested, I can give you some personal lessons if you come out to drift day. I've been instructing for a good number of years now.

          It has always been more of a hobby for fun while racing is where I'd rather compete. I think a lot people would really enjoy it if they weren't so close minded.

          Here's a quick video of me in my corolla GTS.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6kuEx6gjM

          In my caterham, the turning radius is not very good, but I do have the narrow track suspension.

          Alex Pfeiffer is another instructor that has a 7. This is his locost that has insane amounts of steering angle.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDUv7kDfqto

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          • #6
            When I was young in New Mexico I spent lots of time on dirt roads and took ever snow and ice opportunity that came my way learning how to make the ass end of a nineteen sixty one Chevy station wagon (w/ a 2 speed Powerglide and a 383:D) swing too and fro. Talk about your fun!

            2 time US Champion Samuel Hubinette (sorry Magnus, I don't know where to find the funny double dot 'u' ya'll use) and his wife (she drives in TT) are semi-regulars at NASA events and can be found hanging out w/ the Caterham fellas, when he's not off at an event.

            There's a simultaneously subtle and huge difference between controlling a car that has lost traction as opposed to controlling one at the limits of (the) traction (circle). That difference is speed. Both forms of driving are fun, one is faster.
            Last edited by moosetestbestanden; March 29, 2009, 10:04 PM.
            Chris
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            A day you don't go a hundred is a day wasted

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